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Hi, I'm originally like to report a UFO, is that correct?

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Okay.

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Hello?

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Yes, sir.

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Was there any report of UFO and Hayward?

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Not so far.

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Not so far, huh?

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You see something?

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Yes, I did.

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I've called the Oakland airport and the Hayward airport and there's been quite a few calls

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on the same thing.

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Okay, we'd like to hear about it.

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Well, I was coming from Fremont and I noticed this object about 15 miles in front of me

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and it was hard to tell how high up it was at the time.

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Well, I reached Hayward right around A Street and it was still hovering there.

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Some people were pulling off the freeway and getting out of their cars and looking at it.

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So I did the same thing.

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I was over there for quite a few minutes and with the lights going around the side and it

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had a red dome on the top and then all of a sudden the lights started going faster and

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the thing was on an angle like, you know, on a tilt and all of a sudden it took off like

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nothing ever the same before and it stopped again.

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If the radio was going it probably ended up in Oakland within a matter of seconds and

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it stopped again and it was doing the same thing as it was doing in Hayward.

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The lights stopped moving fast and it started going slow again.

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I called the Oakland airport and they said it was a Cessna, Tawina Banner and that doesn't

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seem too logical to me and I also got the same story from the Hayward airport.

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Tawina Banner.

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Yeah, Tawina Banner and I asked them what the reason would be for Tawina Banner at night

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and they weren't sure and I said, well then why is it lighted?

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Because there isn't any letters or anything because it was low enough to work.

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Everything was disbanked.

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So they clicked this off right away and gave us a couple of numbers to call because they

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didn't want to answer any more questions.

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So I thought well, they said they had a ton of calls in on it already.

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Right.

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Okay, what time did you spot that?

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Let's see, that was, I got home at 11.30 so I watched it probably around 11 o'clock.

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Okay.

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Now just how close did this thing get to you?

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Well, it was hovering over the freeway and from everything I could tell it was probably

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about a half mile up.

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Okay, now you say hovering.

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Do you mean just moving in a small area or stationary?

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Stationary as far as I could tell, okay.

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And when it did decide to move, the lights around it because there was no, at first I thought

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it might be a blout.

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And I got out and the sky was lit very nicely behind it from the moon or whatever it was

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but there was a light and there was no silhouette of a blout.

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But there was a distinct silhouette of what I've seen on TV to be a flying saucer with

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a red dome on the top that was lighted and blinking.

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And there would be an interval of like the lights on the side were all blown and there

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would be three, then a gap and then there would be like four because I countered them

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as they went around and it repeated itself.

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I could, when the three would come around there would be a gap in there and then there would

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be four fall on it.

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And there was, you know, that way every time I went around I could count how many times

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it was going around.

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And then all of a sudden when it decided to take off, it went fast enough to where you

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couldn't count them and then it just took off.

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Well, in other words, the spinning of these things increased before it took off?

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Right.

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I see.

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Then did the spinning slow down when the things stopped?

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Right.

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What I could tell, it must have been an open, because it was quite a ways.

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And then I thought, stop again because the speed it was traveling, you could tell the

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thing was moving.

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And then all of a sudden it just boom, it stopped and it started doing the same thing

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it was doing in Hayward.

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Okay, then in your opinion, would you say this thing moved from one stationary position

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to another position too fast for any kind of aircraft?

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Oh, certainly.

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Okay.

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Now I couldn't, there's number one, if they would have said a helicopter or something,

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I would have heard it.

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Okay.

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There was no sound of this that I could tell.

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Whether the helicopter, even though the traffic is still on the freeway, you could hear it.

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But this, you couldn't hear anything.

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Okay.

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Now these lights on this thing, did you say that they were oblong?

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They were oblong.

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And not horizontally, it was vertical.

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Okay.

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Now, what were the colors?

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Well, the lights were around the perimeter it looked like.

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They were a brilliant white.

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Now at the top, it was a red dome, a distinct red dome.

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And a bright, you know, and blinking periodically.

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Okay.

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Now could you make out the object itself that these lights were attached to?

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Well, it looked like, almost that it was like if it were a solid object, and then these

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lights were on a different, like a different unit, and it moved independently of the saucer

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or whatever it was.

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Right.

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Yeah, it looks like that was the means of its power.

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Okay.

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From what I could tell.

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Well, if I could say it was a nice night to see anything in the sky because it was a

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light out.

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And the only silhouette that I could see, you know, was exactly what I did see was the

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dome and the flatness to it.

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And also it was on a tilt.

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Was that tilted towards you?

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No, it was in such a way that I could see that it was, oh, let's say, maybe about,

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say, 24, 25 degrees.

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To you?

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Well, no.

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As I was looking at it, I could tell that there was a 24, 25 degree angle to it, and I was

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on the side more or less.

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Okay, right.

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Okay, now in your estimation, if there was an object, how big would it be?

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Well, at first, like I said, I thought it was a Goodyear blimp, and you know how it'll

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have that neon sign that rotates around it.

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Well, from Fremont, that's what I thought it was.

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And I was curious, so I kept my eyes on it all the way until I hit Hayward, and there

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wasn't anything legible about it.

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So I pulled over and I got out, and it was large.

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I would think the thing would have to be at least a couple hundred feet across.

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Okay.

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And the altitude, any estimate on that?

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Well, here again, I anywhere from about a half a mile to a mile.

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Okay.

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I think it was just too distinct to be any further than that.

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Of course, there could be one here, but I don't know.

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And there was a very definite gap between these lights.

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Yeah, right.

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And it moved in such a way that it repeated itself, and it was moving slowly, and it was

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moving counterclockwise to where I was.

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Right.

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So I would think that, you know, see, the thing that brought more curiosity to this than what

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I'd seen, because I've heard other people that I know have seen things like this, and

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I was shocked, but I could believe it.

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But this thing called the airport than having this, just pulling a banner.

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At eleven o'clock at night.

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Eleven o'clock at night.

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Just didn't satisfy my curiosity, so I'm sure we'll try.

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You said there were other people stopping on the freeway?

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Yeah, well, about, say, a mile to a mile and a quarter before I actually pulled off on

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the off-ramp, there was people actually pulling off the side of the freeway.

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And I pulled off on this off-ramp a-stream, and he worked on it, and I pulled down below

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and got out and looked at it.

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It moved just entirely, and there's just no possible way, even these jet-sized scenes

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where the Air Force didn't compare to how quickly this thing got up and went.

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I mean, the speed from standing still to where it finally ended up, man, it was just too quick.

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In fact, the first time I've ever seen, I can move that fast.

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Okay, now on its second stationary stop, did you watch that until the thing took off again?

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No, when I had heard the thing take off, I saw this, it hit some place in Oakland and then stopped again.

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At that time, I went and called the Hayworth Police Department and tried to get a hold of Hayworth Airport,

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which I didn't at the time, and when I got home, I finally did get a hold of Hayworth Airport.

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They said there was a ton of calls on it, and Oakland said that they had to receive calls on it,

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but here again, they come back with a story with an assessment.

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Okay, where did you finally get our number?

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From the, I think, Hayworth Airport.

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Hayworth, okay.

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It's another number in Washington, I think it was, but we didn't get an answer.

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But this is the first call on this?

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That's the first one we've had so far, right?

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Maybe, evidently, some of these people were pacified by the story they gave them on the assessment.

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I just can't buy it, no way.

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Well, okay, we'll get on this thing, and if we come up with any answers, we'll get back to you and let you know.

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I appreciate it.

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Thanks much for going.

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Okay, thank you.

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Bye.